Comments on: Put down the gun and let’s talk this out http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/ I might have been born yesterday, sir, but I stayed up all night. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:49:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Tom http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-693 Tom Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:05:12 +0000 http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-693 I got to say, I typically feel like Clinton can do no wrong, but it pissed me off to see him masasging Lieberman's balls like that. What the fuck Bill? I got to say, I typically feel like Clinton can do no wrong, but it pissed me off to see him masasging Lieberman’s balls like that. What the fuck Bill?

]]> By: Ananth http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-677 Ananth Fri, 11 Aug 2006 18:35:35 +0000 http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-677 I don't think he feels betrayed by all Democrats. He had support by a lot of key democrats in the Primary. I'll give you that he is ready to take the leftwing of the party to the mattresses, but the simple fact that he wants to stay a democrat in his run should tell you something. Of course he is going to have Republican backers. I am even going to give him some money. There is no viable Republican nominee, and Joe Lieberman is a far better option than Ned Lamont to most people on the Right. It seems to me that the left's hatred of Lieberman is akin to the Right's hatred of McCain. I see a lot of the same complaints (loves to be on TV, we could get a more liberal/conservative senator in that state). It's kind of unfortunate that good men like them get thrown under the bus because people are unwilling to deal with the fringe. I don’t think he feels betrayed by all Democrats. He had support by a lot of key democrats in the Primary. I’ll give you that he is ready to take the leftwing of the party to the mattresses, but the simple fact that he wants to stay a democrat in his run should tell you something. Of course he is going to have Republican backers. I am even going to give him some money. There is no viable Republican nominee, and Joe Lieberman is a far better option than Ned Lamont to most people on the Right.

It seems to me that the left’s hatred of Lieberman is akin to the Right’s hatred of McCain. I see a lot of the same complaints (loves to be on TV, we could get a more liberal/conservative senator in that state). It’s kind of unfortunate that good men like them get thrown under the bus because people are unwilling to deal with the fringe.

]]> By: Steve http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-676 Steve Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:26:20 +0000 http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-676 <blockquote>They only way the would have to spend money in CT is if the alienated Joe to the point where he would become a Republican if he wins</blockquote> Dude, we're there already. I'm pretty sure he feels personally betrayed. He's the de facto Republican candidate in Connecticut now, and he's going to have plenty of Republican donors shoring him up. The Democrats need him out of the race.

They only way the would have to spend money in CT is if the alienated Joe to the point where he would become a Republican if he wins

Dude, we’re there already. I’m pretty sure he feels personally betrayed. He’s the de facto Republican candidate in Connecticut now, and he’s going to have plenty of Republican donors shoring him up. The Democrats need him out of the race.

]]> By: Tom http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-674 Tom Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:35:23 +0000 http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-674 These ads: http://time-blog.com/allen_report/ These ads:

http://time-blog.com/allen_report/

]]> By: Ananth http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-673 Ananth Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:12:16 +0000 http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-673 Is that a real ad or are you making something up to be funny? I think the republican strategy is going to be to try and get republicans out to vote for Lieberman and pretty much abandon their craptacular nominee with the hope that more republican the turnout, the more likely they will be voting for the republican incumbent. I dunno, that's what I think it will be anyway... we'll see what happens. As for joe, trying to shank him is bad on many levels for democrats. The most important being what if he wins? This is basically going to play out on the polling numbers. If 'Fredo' stays way ahead in the 3 way poll numbers, their is no way the DSCC wastes money trying to help Lamont win the seat over someone who is going to be a Democrat anyway. And if Lamont pulls ahead, they won't need to spend money either. They only way the would have to spend money in CT is if the alienated Joe to the point where he would become a Republican if he wins, so I think you will see some very non enthusiastic stumping if any by the party. I think you will get a lot of 'Joe Leiberman is good man and a fine Senator, but I support the Democratic Nominee' and that probably won't even be in Connecticut. Is that a real ad or are you making something up to be funny? I think the republican strategy is going to be to try and get republicans out to vote for Lieberman and pretty much abandon their craptacular nominee with the hope that more republican the turnout, the more likely they will be voting for the republican incumbent. I dunno, that’s what I think it will be anyway… we’ll see what happens.

As for joe, trying to shank him is bad on many levels for democrats. The most important being what if he wins? This is basically going to play out on the polling numbers. If ‘Fredo’ stays way ahead in the 3 way poll numbers, their is no way the DSCC wastes money trying to help Lamont win the seat over someone who is going to be a Democrat anyway. And if Lamont pulls ahead, they won’t need to spend money either. They only way the would have to spend money in CT is if the alienated Joe to the point where he would become a Republican if he wins, so I think you will see some very non enthusiastic stumping if any by the party. I think you will get a lot of ‘Joe Leiberman is good man and a fine Senator, but I support the Democratic Nominee’ and that probably won’t even be in Connecticut.

]]> By: Tom http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-672 Tom Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:48:45 +0000 http://stevesiwy.com/blog/2006/08/10/put-down-the-gun-and-lets-talk-this-out/#comment-672 The attack ads in the works for the fall regarding Lieberman/Lamont are wondrously awkward and don't even really make sense. I hope the Republicans tie their hopes to the blistering (note sarcasm pooling at my feet) ads that say, "Lieberman wasn't Liberal enough so they kicked him off the ticket, so you should vote for the incumbent Republican in your local district..." Ridiculous. non-sequitur. And I hope they use it. The attack ads in the works for the fall regarding Lieberman/Lamont are wondrously awkward and don’t even really make sense. I hope the Republicans tie their hopes to the blistering (note sarcasm pooling at my feet) ads that say, “Lieberman wasn’t Liberal enough so they kicked him off the ticket, so you should vote for the incumbent Republican in your local district…” Ridiculous. non-sequitur. And I hope they use it.

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