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6 Responses to “Lou, your secret Know-Nothing underwear is showing”  

1. 1 Ananth May 24th, 2006 at 5:05 pm

   Right Steve, 12 million illegal immigrants in the last 20 years is just imaginary right? Why is that people who want an orderly process that the United States determines to be followed have to be racist? Just because some people in this camp are racist, doesn’t mean we subscribe to their beliefs. Just because their are a lot of Socialist and Anarchist that support the antiwar movement doesn’t mean everyone who is antiwar is a socialist.

   Also, what is your answer? Should just let everyone in? This is a case of people letting themselves feel bad for the plight of people in other countries, and completely stop thinking rationally. We have to control our borders. Once we control our borders, most people will be willing to allow enought immigrants to come in. But until we can demonstrate that we can control the border, must people do not want another 1986 amensty agreement.

2. 2 Tom May 24th, 2006 at 5:10 pm

   Lou has gone crazy. Though every 5th point he makes is good. For example, he’ll say that the president and congress don’t care about citizens and rail on them for their tax cuts for the wealthy or some such bullshit (good point), but then he’ll advocate shipping away all of my brothers and sisters. Cracker. Pick your own oranges Lou, it’s hot out there.

   I think the Democrats need to come out as rabidly pro-information. Before we can say, “send them all home,” or give amnesty, or some sort of hierarchical amnesty, we need to know how many illegals we have. Let’s give them a provisional amnesty for the purpose of information gathering. I’d even be ok with saying we’ll deport them if they don’t let themselves be counted. But we need those numbers if we’re going to act responsibly. If we potentially get $1000 a pop per illegal, we’re in business. That’s a lot of money that can do a lot of good. Though the bill is wildly flawed, it de-criminalizes identity theft in some instances, and that’s crap.

   As a descendant of illegals, I can say that my grandmother would’ve been pissed as hell at all the Mexicans taking the day off work and perpetuating the stereotype of being lazy (though we are lazy, at least I am, and my brothers and sisters, and cousins, and we like to drink, a lot, and wear hats, and nap). By the time the feds caught up to my great-grandmother she had two sons in the Navy in WWII, two daughters – including my grandmother – working in a bomber plant all Rosie the Riveter style, and decided to just leave her be as she was, as they put it, more American than most. Now was she the exception or the rule? Again, we need numbers to know. We also need amnesty and numbers from businesses. We need info from Wal Mart and Burger Kings, farms and construction companies. THEY need amnesty because the information is more important than being punitive, though without a doubt someone will be reminded of the good ole internment camps and hide when it was their turn to be counted. Then we get that info and have Amar and his econ nerd brothers and sisters to build some models and make some projections and shit.

   In addition to being pro-information, we need alert the racist asshole contingent that they are being played. Bush will never kick out the Mexicans. Big business will never kick out the Mexicans. Liberals and Democrats will never kick out the Mexicans. Reagan - the butt buddy in effigy of all those neo-cons instituted the hated 1986 Amnesty. It’s all a scare tactic to get the voter turnout for the midterms. Every Democrat and every smart or business-minded Republican knows that we need illegal aliens and that our economy has become wholly reliant upon them. I don’t even know that I agree that they depress wages, though I see the argument.

   The racist asshole contingent needs it to be pointed out to them that Mexicans are only stealing jobs that don’t require a grasp of the English language or any sort of schooling. Put crudely, jobs for dumb white people. Lets focus on the ‘dumb’. Lets emasculate them and point out how they can’t get real jobs, all Glengarry Glen Ross style, like, “WHOEVER TOLD YOU YOU COULD WORK WITH MEN??!?!?!” That kind of thing. Get all Mamet up in their shit.

3. 3 Al Pacino as Roma May 24th, 2006 at 5:19 pm

   ROMA
   (to Williamson)
   You stupid fucking cunt. You,
   Williamson…I’m talking to you,
   shithead…You just cost me six
   thousand dollars.
   (pause)
   Six thousand dollars. And one
   Cadillac. That’s right. What are
   you going to do about it? What are
   you goin to do about it, asshole.
   You fucking shit. Where did you
   learn your trade. You stupid
   fucking cunt. You idiot. Whoever
   told you you could work with men?

   BAYLEN
   Could I…

   ROMA
   I’m going to have your job, shithead.
   I’m going downtown and talk to
   Mitch and Murrray, and I’m going to
   Lemkin. I don’t care whose nephew
   you are, who you know, whose dick
   you’re sucking on. You’re going
   out, I swear to you, you’re going…

   BAYLEN
   Hey, fella, let’s get this done…

   ROMA
   Anyone in this office lives on
   their wits…
   (to Baylen)
   I’m going to be with you in a
   second.
   (to Williamson)
   What you’re hired for is to help
   us–does that seem clear to you?
   (MORE)

   82.

   ROMA (CONT’D)
   To help us. Not to fuck us up…to
   help men who are going out there to
   try to earn a living. You fairy.
   You company man…I’ll tell you
   something else. I hope you knocked
   the joint off, I can tell our
   friend here something might help
   him catch you.
   (starts into the room)
   You want to learn the first rule
   you’d know if you ever spent a day
   in your life…you never open your
   mouth till you know what the shot
   is.
   (pause)
   You fucking child…

4. 4 Herschel Numbers May 24th, 2006 at 7:14 pm

   Why is that people who want an orderly process that the United States determines to be followed have to be racist?

   They don’t, necessarily. But they aren’t the ones for whom this little show is being staged. The racist assholes are. The “thoughtful immigration reform” contingency might play along and lend credibility to this Brown Menace shit by doing Policy Kabuki on the Sunday talk shows, but if they do, they are, to quote Instapundit, “useful idiots.” Or cynical opportunists; whichever.

5. 5 Graham May 24th, 2006 at 10:31 pm

   I’d like to point out as my fine Mexican brother does, that this issue is just not being raised by the “racist assholes” as you call them. The Latinos, illegal and legal, are making their presence known as the largest minority and in some places (NYC) the majority. This issue is being built by both sides. As as usual I think there is some space in the middle where they are probably both right.

6. 6 Steve May 25th, 2006 at 3:57 pm

   The Latinos, illegal and legal, are making their presence known as the largest minority and in some places (NYC) the majority. This issue is being built by both sides.

   Well, except that what got the Latinos into the streets in Whitey-crap-your-pants numbers was a proposal by Tex Sensenbrenner to make illegal immigration a felony, rather than the civil infraction it now is. So yeah, both sides are building, but the racist assholes picked the fight.

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